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 Post subject: YHA Crowden closing
PostPosted: Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:44 pm 
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See below:-

Thanks for your enquiry about 2014. I am afraid that in line with the below statement, we will not be able to accommodate your booking.

"It has been mutually agreed between YHA and Rotherham Metropolitan Borough Council that the operation at Crowden YHA (Crowden Outdoor Education Centre) currently operated under a joint management agreement will pass back to the sole management of Rotherham Metropolitan Borough Council from the 31st March 2014. This is a positive move for both organisations which will see the centre continuing to offer a high quality service and facility to groups business only.

Bookings for stays taking place up to the 31st March 2014 will continue to be taken through the YHA contact centre, online and via the hostel directly for all our customers including families and individual guests.”

The team at Crowden are sorry that we can not accommodate you, we apologise for any inconvenience caused.

If you are looking for our nearest YHA neighbour, you can find Edale and Manchester are the closest hostels. If you are walking the Pennine Way, or cycling the Trans Pennine Cycleway, and looking for alternative accommodation en route in the Crowden area, the Old House B&B and bunkhouse might be able to accommodate you (01457 857527).

Thanks for your continued support of the YHA. We hope that you find alternative accommodation within the network. Please visit the YHA website (http://www.yha.org.uk), or call the contact centre (0800 0191 700) for further assistance.
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 Post subject: Re: YHA Crowden closing
PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:22 am 
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This is really bad news for Pennine Way walkers. It puts the clock back decades.

I stayed at the hostel in April 2013 on my way north, and it met all my needs. The alternatives are either local beds at the Old House or a hike west on the Longdendale Trail to Padfield/Hadfield which I've done a couple of times (or you could call for a taxi, for that matter).

It would be interesting to learn whether the end of the arrangements is down to YHA policy, or money, or local authority policy, so if anyone has the mental energy to approach the two principals will he/she please post a reply so others can know.


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 Post subject: Re: YHA Crowden closing
PostPosted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 1:06 pm 
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From the Pennine Way Association website

Closure of Crowden Hostel (Except for Large Groups)
Posted on November 11, 2013
It was with both a measure of surprise and disappontment that the members of the Executive of the PWA learnt of the forthcoming closure of the YHA hostel at Crowden in its current form on March 31st 2014.

Indeed it was only when former Secretary Peter Stott tried to reserve a room for a stay next Spring that we , or anyone else as far as we can ascertain, were aware of the situation. Subsequent investigation by both Peter and Chris Sainty revealed from the YHA that a decision and mutual agreement had been reached with Rotherham Council to close the hostel as a functioning youth hostel and all matters relating to the hostel would be handled in future by the owners Rotherham Council. This was confirmed by Mr Colin Gratton-Rayson who is the Outdoor Learning Youth Work Manager for Rotherham Council. Mr Rayson stated that the hostel would be available for bookings by groups. The definition of a group is not at the moment clear but is believed to be not less than ten people per group. Crowden had been operating as what is known as an Enterprise Hostel and the status of these is reviewed on a periodic basis.

To say that this change is a disappointment is an understatement as anyone who has walked over from Edale, even on a good weather day will appreciate, as accommodation hereabouts is very limited. What is of more interest is the covert way the whole process regarding the change has been, with no known news appearing in the press or from the organisations concerned and no information in the outdoor press. This is a major cause of disappointment as there appears to have been no consultation whatsoever.

As it happens Chris Sainty had made a reservation at Crowden some tine ago and he has now received contact from the YHA that his booking has been transferred to the Old House at Glossop. It is obvious that this change will cause difficulties for Pennine Way walkers and it is to be hoped that facilities will become available in the Glossop area as an opportunity exists here for an enterprising organisation.

The situation is to be discussed at the Executive Meeting of the PWA which is being held next Saturday (Nov 16th 2013) at Leeds. The venue is the Friends Meeting House, Woodhouse Lane, Leeds commencing at 1.00 pm and a further report will be made on this website following the meeting.
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 Post subject: Re: YHA Crowden closing
PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 12:31 pm 
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Sorry forgot to update the very polite telephone call in response to my email to them:-

"The old hostel was sold and the new one built in conjunction with and "to be owned" by Rotherham Metropolitan Borough Council. It was agreed at that time that Rotherham Council would have preference to use it as an Outdoor Education Centre with the YHA backfilling any unfilled places. In practice this has meant few places being available except on occasions between the Outdoor courses. Whilst the YHA would consult about changes with organisations where they own the hostel, in this case they didn't so no consultations took place. In answer to a question they didn't consult when they changed to the new hostel as they didn't think that there would be a problem."

Very disappointing for Pennine Way walkers but as they say "we are where we are". I have managed to get in at The Old House so all OK but with less accommodation in Crowden it will become another bottleneck like Keld (staying at the Tan Hill Inn which, despite some reports, I am really looking forward to!). :lol:


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